GROSS: We talk about the podcast and before we talk about your work together, Earlonne, I want to talk with you about life outside. As of now, he works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. explores life inside San Quentin State Prison. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. When asked earlier this year what was the first thing he would do if he got out, Woods said, Take a bath. Ear Hustle is a non-fiction podcast about prison life and life after incarceration created by Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams, both formerly incarcerated, and Nigel Poor, an artist who volunteers at San Quentin State Prison. And I believe, personally, that that will ease overcrowding because there are a lot of people in prison that deserve to be out. He had served 21 years of a 31-years-to-life sentence. He received a sentence of 31-years-to-life. Nigel is a professor of photography at California State University in Sacramento. He is 5 feet 7 inches tall ( Approx1.7 m). And I listen very carefully to how you talked about your relationship and how much you thought about it and how painful and joyous the whole experience was for you. And then Trevor was arrested when their son, Tyler, was 10. GROSS: I want to thank you both so much. Poor is a professor of photography at California State University in Sacramento. Our associate producer for digital media is Molly Seavy-Nesper. I find it invigorating. Tyler was sent to live with extended family. Earlonne Woods, co-host of the popular prison podcast Ear Hustle, had his sentence commuted by California Gov. Woods, 47, was recently released from San Quentin State Prison after California Gov. You know, he was - you know, I even - I'm talking to him all the time. This is what we work for because there comes a moment in every person in prison's life where the light switch go on. I have all the different people that I talk to as I work my way down to the media lab. Even after Woods is out on parole in Oakland, California, Ear Hustle said that it will continue, with Poor telling more tales from those inside San Quentin and Woods talking about the journey to re-enter society after years behind bars. We get - I mean, it's - you know, it's - we're just E WOODS: You're able to go out now. There's a man that I worked with for quite a while that I was very fond of. Earlonne, I want to ask you about the final podcast you recorded in San Quentin, which was largely about your older brother, Trevor, and your nephew, Tyler. Like, my mother used to bring him. So I think that's very damaging. E WOODS: It was devastating because I had - one, I had just talked to Tyler, like, probably the day before. Woods helped create Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. He's also co-host of the podcast "Ear Hustle," which is why we had him on this program. Ive been taking showers for like 20 years.. In April 1989, a drive-by shooting in San Francisco, CA, left at least 11 people injured, and 2 people dead. Therefore, it is not known if Earlonne is single, dating, or married. Did you give him a hug? So in that case, I didn't dig in. When Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods met, Poor was a photography professor volunteering with the Prison University Project, and Woods was serving thirty-one years to life at California's San Quentin State Prison. There's a story you did about how people like you from the outside who come in to volunteer - because you started at San Quentin volunteering teaching photography before you started doing the podcast Ear Hustle. Earlonne is 5 feet 7 inches tall ( Approx1.7 m). You were OK with that? Jerry Brown. T WOODS: I received an email from one of my partners. And many people around me wasn't like that. He and Nigel also co-wrote This Is Ear Hustle: Unflinching Stories of Everyday Prison Life, a book inspired by the podcast and published by Crown/Random House. [7] Co-creators Woods and Antwan Williams were inmates at San Quentin State Prison for the first three seasons of the show. [8][9] Poor is a visual artist in the San Francisco Bay area who volunteers at the prison. Jerry Brown is releasing Woods from San Quentin State Prison after two decades behind bars. Is that OK? They're very polite. ERIN: No, I don't feel you're being unfair at all, and I don't ultimately know what my hesitancy is. And you start thinking differently, you know? And, like E WOODS: My partners. All rights reserved. It was like 2 in the morning. [1][2] Since his release, Woods has continued to co-host the podcast with Poor from outside prison, with Poor recording some parts in San Quentin with new co-host Rahsaan "New York" Thomas. I wouldn't spend time in a place that made me uncomfortable or I didn't like. And it was just - I just seen him slipping through my fingers because I wasn't there to snatch him up. After California Governor Jerry Brown commuted his sentence last month, Woods reflects on. I'm not doing that. I've never felt scared or disrespected. Its out of body, he said of getting the call from Browns office. His sentence was commuted yesterday. The San Francisco Public Library chose the title for its One City One Book citywide community reading program in 2022. So, Nigel, when you decided you wanted to start, like, a interview series that started on KALW - the public - one of the public radio stations in San Francisco, and then it became a podcast - you wanted a co-host and co-producer who was incarcerated in San Quentin. Trevor was wanted and was on the run. . ALEX BLUMBERG: And so a friend of Earlonne's, a volunteer at the prison, had an idea: with this spotlight on his work, and having served now two decades of his 31-to-life sentence, Earlonne should put in for a commutation -- make an official appeal to the governor, to set him free. He's been behind bars for more than 20 years. [3] According to The Economist, by this time Woods was one of the most famous incarcerated people in the US. So it be at prison, I'm going to enjoy my day every day because at the end of the day, this is all I got, you know? Ear Hustle was selected from 1,537 submissions, securing the funding for a 10-episode first season. You have to go through a lot of E WOODS: Yeah, it's a lot of stuff you have to go through. [13], The term "ear hustle" is prison slang for eavesdropping. I'm always interested in people who - I'm quiet myself. When asked earlier this year what was the first thing he would do if he got out, Woods said, Take a bath. And, Earlonne, again, I want to thank - I want to congratulate you again for your new freedom. HuffPost visited Woods at San Quentin earlier this year to discuss why he created the podcast. How do we present this? Shes holding on. I actually oddly enjoy being in there. Behind 'Ear Hustle,' The Podcast Made In Prison. And it was very hard for that to not change the way I felt about him. [3], Woods met artist and volunteer Nigel Poor, who was teaching photography at the film school. Earlonne became preoccupied with reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who had previously been incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. His net worth is estimated to be $657,586. We can go to the gym and work out together. And to hear how it happened to him and to hear that he was shot 19 times, you know - and I just try to visualize, like, what he was going through at the time he was being shot at by those officers. All rights reserved. And they say Tyler just took off running. He is 5 feet 7 inches tall ( Approx1.7 m). Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). So, yeah. It didn't work out, unfortunately. Nigel first started going to San Quentin as a volunteer teaching photography. The victims of a crime are faceless. I'm on a podcast. E WOODS: And she even got mad at me the other day E WOODS: 'Cause I left dinner with everyone, and I went to the movies by myself to go see "Vice" (laughter). Just to be out there with her.. And I got into this group. Earlonne Woods co-hosted the podcast Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. Nigel first went to San Quentin as a volunteer teaching photography. I pretty much raised Tyler from '95 to '97, when I got arrested. "Ear Hustle" the phrase is slang for eavesdropping is a collaboration between Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams, both prisoners at San Quentin, and Nigel Poor, a Bay Area visual artist who teaches photography classes at the prison. [11], By September 2021, Ear Hustle episodes had been downloaded over 54 million times. You know that it could be a possibility, but it's a possibility that you've seen pretty much your whole life, you know? SHAPIRO: That's Earlonne Woods from the podcast "Ear Hustle." She started going to San Quentin to volunteer teaching photography. But it was just - it was spectacular. Woods was involved in an attempted robbery in 1997, when he was in his 20s. You know, prison, I'm going to live to the best of my ability. It's a job. [7] Woods relocated to Oakland, California after his release, and was hired full-time as a producer and co-host of Ear Hustle. And that surprised me greatly. Earlonne Woods is the cocreator, coproducer, and cohost of the Pulitzer-nominated podcast Ear Hustle. And, Earlonne, since you served so much time, let's start with you. GROSS: A job because you thought it was, like, your only source of income? Those are my partners. Once you commit your crime, people think thats what it is, but individuals change. Earlonnes sentence was recently commuted, but the two proceed to tell stories of life behind bars. In terms of his romantic life, Park is happily married to his wife in South Korea. After you got out of San Quentin, you and Nigel went to the governor's mansion. E WOODS: Right. Why we living like we don't care - because this is somehow how we grew up and how - since as early teenager we've been living in the streets, in the gangs. Jerry Brown commuted his sentence for attempted armed robbery. Woods is a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of PRXs Ear Hustle with Nigel Poor. And I hit the floor. 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